Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.
Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC)
I told him I don't know what that means (educating the heart to follow the mind? educating the mind to follow the heart? what's the context?) and he responded that as it is Aristotle, I should think about it.It doesn't sound like Aristotle, does it? And why, when I googled the quote (for context), could I not find a reference to where it was?
I think this quote is made-up by a source who has managed to fool many, including our good friend E-man. I don't think Aristotle said it; I would bet it's an attempt of people who base their life decisions on faith-based-claims to reassure others that their belief is true because even as great a philosopher as Aristotle believed in the logic of the educated heart.
Some smarter people from the Straight Dope forum apparently agree with me and I've sent a shaila asking where the mekor for the Aristotle quote comes from to Snopes as well.
For an attempt to co-opt Aristotle into frumkeit specifically, see "his" letter in the Meam Loez, here.
You are funny. It was on my sidebar in my famous person quote of the day. My point was that the idea I was trying to bring across was that the facts need to also speak to our emotions, otherwise we will not take into account the facts.
ReplyDeleteIt can be found here http://thinkexist.com/quotation/educating_the_mind_without_educating_the_heart_is/185803.html
ReplyDeletehttp://www.giga-usa.com/quotes/topics/education_t001.htm
http://forum.thefreedictionary.com/postst10893_Educating-the-mind-without-educating-the-heart-is-no-education-at-all-.aspx
http://www.quotesdaddy.com/quote/1197426/Aristotle/educating-the-mind-without-educating-the-heart-is
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091025113916AAMHiB1 (This is like you say)
In the end of the day it matters little who said it. It is the idea behind it. I do not base my beliefs on it, I just thought it might help you understand my point of view better.
At the end of the day, if one is citing somebody, but that somebody never really said what is being cited, then it really does seem to matter. Citing somebody is a way of credentialing a statement or idea. So, if so-and-so didn't say something, then it is a mistake to say they did. Rather, the "citation" should be Anonymous (at worst) or simply should be claimed to be a saying (at best).
DeleteHi, in regards to this quote by Aristotle there isn't a direct or original text from where it originates. As with all Classics work in both philosophical and religious text, translation from one language to another will result in many different interpretations and understandings.
ReplyDeleteHowever this quote can be widely referenced from his writings on Politics Book 8 (http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/politics.8.eight.html) and towards the end of his famous Nicomachean Ethics Book 10 (http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.10.x.html).
You can also take a look at the below URL for reference. Have a good day =) http://en.allexperts.com/q/Greek-2004/2011/5/Aristotle-quote-1.htm
A Greek philosopher for the ages, Aristotle, believed in the logic of the educated heart. Have a look at the article: aristotle greek philosopher for the ages
ReplyDeleteSo, Frederick...you're referring people to a site that sells papers to others to turn in as their own??
DeleteI appreciate the links provided by Daryl Ho, but nowhere in my scan of that text--which is full of other not-so-spreadable nuggets of wisdom--did I find a line that seemed to parallel the cloying nature of the original quote.
I've decided to ask some scholars about what conclusions they have so far in regard of this quote and overall, there's a general consensus that Aristotle stated this along the line, but not directly as the quote was paraphrased in the translations.)
ReplyDeleteAccording to Kathleen Listman, from the M.Ed University of Texas, in Arlington, she admits that the ancient Greeks believe the heart was the source of a persons personality, the emotions came from the bowels and the brain observed things and caused pain (which Aristotle believed as in his work on "On the Soul" (peri psychēs), where he placed the rational soul in the heart, rather than the brain.
There are also other findings done by Stephen F Mason, Professor of Chemistry King's College London and Honorary Research Fellow in History and Philosophy of Science as well as by Nancy Evans to back this up too.
SOURCES:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/hypatia/article/diotima-and-demeter-as-mystagogues-in-platos-symposium/2FBCABB38027C3CAEB4112A64B2510DA
https://books.google.com.mm/books?id=PLlMAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y
*Highly recommend you to read Aristotle's "On the Soul" (peri psychēs, alongside with "Politics - Book 8" and the "Nicomachean Ethics - Book 10".
Very likely he taught this to his pupils in where their heart lies,on the process of educating them. Note that in these times, the Greeks themselves were being deeply devoted to music as a literal gift of their gods (which they perform in their schooling as an ceremony from their hearts), thus, its highly evident why they would do this and Aristotle, who founded the world's first school, the Lyceum in 335, due to ideological disagreements with Plato, is definitely the practitioner of this, as his beliefs outlining this concept can be found in the Peri Psychēs.
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